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Break In Period for those Picking Up

Incorrect, it isn't called a "nanny mode" but that's what I call it. You can search and search but lots of manufacturers have them and implement them with ETC-Electronic Throttle Control Limiting, Engine Control Module Programming (ECM), Rev Limiters, Software-based power limiting, etc.

The End User (EU) might not "see" any of these things, but they are very much there. If for instance if you tried to smash the pedal, the vehicle just won't allow WOT, and you might feel like the vehicle is just slow. Rev limiters act much in a similar way, just changing gears sooner, and on and on. I know our trucks will have these, and as I say, I read in official literature, or maybe saw on a webinar with the head engineer that RHO will have this until first 800 miles. I could be wrong on miles, they could change it too, but 800 is sticking a neuron that I can't shake.
Well, let's put it this way. It doesnt exist until YOU can find actual literature/proof regarding the existence of this "nanny" mode.

BTW, you can test this theory out by going to a RAM dealership and test drive a HO equipped model. While driving it, slam the throttle and report back. I've done it when I went to test drive a Limited. The salesperson didn't like it, but it will get up and go.
 
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Well, let's put it this way. It doesnt exist until YOU can find actual literature/proof regarding the existence of this "nanny" mode. We can all believe what we want in our own mind/conscious but that doesn't mean it's real.

BTW, you can test this theory out by going to a RAM dealership and test drive a HO equipped model. While driving it, slam the throttle and report back. I've done it when I went to test drive a Limited. The salesperson didn't like it, but it will get up and go.
LOL, I hate you but fair. This bothered me far more than I'd like, so I started thinking it was in the first edition of the owner's manual. I can only see the 3rd edition on Mopar site but assumed I'd have saved it on one my local devices, local server or google drive and apparently, I did not. I recall a test driver checking 0-60 and 1/4 mile on brand new HO and got significantly slower times than published. I'd chalked that up to the limiters I mentioned above. All that being said, google a bit about any of terms I listed above, and you'll see that all manufacturers (that I'm aware of) do in fact impose these restrictions, as a way to safeguard against early warranty claims, bad owner experiences, and brand reputation. I can't blanket statement say they all do that, but reputable brands definitely do.

I'd have loved you to record the salesguys face, LOL. If it got up and went then in my mind, that bodes well for after the 800th mile ;)

If I can't find it, I'll fly to dealership with my Pro Computer, plug it in and download the real-time data for the whole trip and IF, I find nothing, I'll ship you a case of your favorite libation.
 
Why didn't you order from Koon's in Va?
I am in maryland and ordered from Mark dodge this time because when i ordered my trx from them the ordering was great....the pickup sucked lowballed me on my trade told me they would give me what carmax would and i showed up with the carmax paper and they gave me 1500 less and wouldnt budge. They are the type of dealer they know they have you by the balls once you come to pickup
 
Well, let's put it this way. It doesnt exist until YOU can find actual literature/proof regarding the existence of this "nanny" mode.

BTW, you can test this theory out by going to a RAM dealership and test drive a HO equipped model. While driving it, slam the throttle and report back. I've done it when I went to test drive a Limited. The salesperson didn't like it, but it will get up and go.
I smashed the peddle on a new Limited HO and it flew down the highway! No nannying here.
 
I think it’s fair to say that everyone drives the way they want to, whether it’s by the book or not, who cares why argue about it we each have our own trucks. Just get in and drive it, people really over think the whole thing.
 
I think the break-in period is important but I think it's more the Rev rate. If you use all 8 gears, gently, and drive the first 200 miles under 50 mph, you should be ok.
 
I think it’s fair to say that everyone drives the way they want to, whether it’s by the book or not, who cares why argue about it we each have our own trucks. Just get in and drive it, people really over think the whole thing.
Spirited debate is not an argument. Break-in is a science and a very real thing, but yeah we are all gonna do what we are gonna do. At the end of the day, all we can do is choose to have and use knowledge or ignore it. The world continues to spin ;)
 
Is all this break-in period stuff actually real? Don't they break these trucks in at the factory? No one really gets a truck with 0 miles, because they have to drive it here and there a bit at first. Don't they test startup?
 
Is all this break-in period stuff actually real? Don't they break these trucks in at the factory? No one really gets a truck with 0 miles, because they have to drive it here and there a bit at first. Don't they test startup?
I mean if it mentioned in the manual
 
Is all this break-in period stuff actually real? Don't they break these trucks in at the factory? No one really gets a truck with 0 miles, because they have to drive it here and there a bit at first. Don't they test startup?
Nope, big myth there. Factory sends us brand new shiny motors. A custom order that's delivered to you can have as little as 0-2 miles on it. Not a break in.

If you only change oil to prevent sludge, and not to remove shavings and other debris then this might matter not so much. Oil samples taken at or under 1k miles from my last 4 brand new vehicles has borne this out. There is tribologist on YouTube that uses his knowledge, samples and testing to show the masses.

Check out "the motor oil geek" on the youtube if you want to have scientific knowledge in hand without doing your own.

Metal on metal friction is what a vehicle does, the thin layer of lubrication is all that prevents it all from melting into a hunk of solid alloys. As metal expands (heated up) and contracts (cools down) this creates friction. The right oil, the right amount, right filter and such all play pivotal role in long engine life. The old timers that swear by every 3k miles were on to something and although oils have vastly improved in additive packages, viscosity and much more, it really only comes down to sludge as to why warranty oil changes have gone to much greater durations. The amount of oil shavings has presumably not decreased (I don't have my own data). Some of us put magnets on our oil filters, only use high end filters, and won't change weights. Those in the know won't mix brands of oil as they know the additive packages are different and have no way of knowing what that will or won't do to their engines.
 
I think the break-in period is important but I think it's more the Rev rate. If you use all 8 gears, gently, and drive the first 200 miles under 50 mph, you should be ok.
I'm going to break this in as I've broken in my previous Cadillac V's, M3, and other sport cars I’ve had at least minimum 500 miles of gentle to moderate driving, with gentle quick burst of WOT from 60mph up to 80’ish mph, nothing more, gentle break-in to allow everything to seat in properly. Once beyond the 500 miles, I start to gradually open her up over time up to 1000 miles. At 1000 miles, I change the oil over to Amsoil, also change all power train fluids. From there, I drive it like I stole it. It has never failed me before and my compression tests have all come back within range or above average with no blow by. Choosing the right oil and filters and frequency is just as important . I prefer Amsoil and more frequent changes than dealer suggests, around every 3500 miles vs 5000+ miles. Regardless of the engine types, I always take it easy in the beginning. I plan to have this truck for awhile. I’m not saying I’m right or wrong, it’s just what I do and it has worked out well for me.
 
anybody get their hands on a service manual yet? or is this way too early
 
The only thing I've ever broken in other than my wife was the v8 mercury on my boat, and there was a lot of WOT to seat the rings man.
 

Thats the latest generation Owners Manual. One of the previous versions had more RHO related items but not seeing them here. Possible newer edition as release gets closer.
Thanks, I meant the actual technical service manual though, like the one they send to dealerships for repairs with torque specs and everything. I assume it will be a while before we see that
 
Is all this break-in period stuff actually real? Don't they break these trucks in at the factory? No one really gets a truck with 0 miles, because they have to drive it here and there a bit at first. Don't they test startup?
How many time do you see new vehicles on the lot with hundreds of miles on them that are not demo vehicles?
They do not break them in.
 
Thanks, I meant the actual technical service manual though, like the one they send to dealerships for repairs with torque specs and everything. I assume it will be a while before we see that
That'll be a minute or two. I'll check my service software but I think the latest download was only for SO Engines.
 
go to minute 29 and listen to an engineer who designed the engine.
I've seen that video and its got good information, unfortunately what an engineer thinks and what happens in real world are not always the same. Like NASA for concept and JPL for the build. Real world data trumps theoretical. From that video it sounds like piston rings are moly. Pros and cons to that too.
 

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