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[Deange2001]

Im paying roughly $13k off sticker and these are super sought after trucks. IF i have issues and hit 6 months of ownership, i would have no issue selling it private party for close to sticker or more, therefore turning a "profit" . I highly doubt in 6 months of ownership the truck would only be worth what i paid for it ($13k off). It would be the least i could do after waiting a year and dealing with a gremlin truck for 6 months. i only say 6 months because most dealers make you sign a contract to not sell the truck within 6 months of delivery to avoid flippers.

I thought the same thing when I got mine and had a few issues...but now I am concerned that, the longer I wait for more things to go wrong, the more everyone else will know how shotty the RHOs can be and this may effect selling price. I guess if you can get an uninformed private party to buy it then it could work out but I am starting to get a bit nervous that the longer I wait the harder time I will have moving on from it. To be fair, this all assumes more things will go wrong which could very well not end up being the case...but it doesn't look super promising.

 

[MattH89]

I dont think one thread has ever stayed on course. LOL

Mods here take a very light touch approach.

 

[AnthonyRI]

I dont think one thread has ever stayed on course. LOL

There was one but I'm going to link it becuase then it will get sabatoged.

 

[JS59]

I dont think one thread has ever stayed on course. LOL

#facts. I just went down a Ram 2500 payload rabbit hole on a thread about new RHO pics!

 

[RAM-Ranch-MT]

I thought the same thing when I got mine and had a few issues...but now I am concerned that, the longer I wait for more things to go wrong, the more everyone else will know how shotty the RHOs can be and this may effect selling price. I guess if you can get an uninformed private party to buy it then it could work out but I am starting to get a bit nervous that the longer I wait the harder time I will have moving on from it. To be fair, this all assumes more things will go wrong which could very well not end up being the case...but it doesn't look super promising.

The issues will be addressed and you only hear the worst in the forums. Honestly all issues seem to be stemming from the new electronics in the 2025 which will likely get addressed with an update soon (i hope). The average joe and general populace has absolutely no clue about the small amount of rho owners having issues, nor do they care. By the time my 6 months hits it will be fall and well into 26 orders so im sure they will work out the kinks! Not too concerned.

Think about it this way. A very small percentage of RHO owners are members in here on the forum, and of the members in here, at most 1/5 have issues has been established. That leaves about a very small populace of total rho owners having issues. Not a huge widespread issue. Just get alot of shock when you are on the forums since you only hear the worst of the worst. Just speculation as we don't know of the issues people not on here are having. hard to tell.

 

[Eighty]

Having owned raptors in the past and being on that forum, and having an account on the TRX forum, I wholeheartedly agree.
@Eighty how feasible is this?

Somehow I missed this. Are you talking about merging the TRX and RHO forums?
That’s crazy talk. The TRX gear heads would eat you guys alive

 

[Steadi]

Somehow I missed this. Are you talking about merging the TRX and RHO forums?
That’s crazy talk. The TRX gear heads would eat you guys alive

We’re big boys, we can handle it

 

[eltaco]

The issues will be addressed and you only hear the worst in the forums. Honestly all issues seem to be stemming from the new electronics in the 2025 which will likely get addressed with an update soon (i hope). The average joe and general populace has absolutely no clue about the small amount of rho owners having issues, nor do they care. By the time my 6 months hits it will be fall and well into 26 orders so im sure they will work out the kinks! Not too concerned.

Think about it this way. A very small percentage of RHO owners are members in here on the forum, and of the members in here, at most 1/5 have issues has been established. That leaves about a very small populace of total rho owners having issues. Not a huge widespread issue. Just get alot of shock when you are on the forums since you only hear the worst of the worst. Just speculation as we don't know of the issues people not on here are having. hard to tell.

That really assumes the issues can be resolved with software fixes, and not some hardware issues with the 2025s.

I think I saw on one of Anthony’s posts there were only ~4000 RHO sold to the point of his posting. Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly. Assuming that’s true and most of these trucks have less than 5k miles, the quantity of failures we’ve read about here are a bit concerning. Who knows if or when others will fail as well.

Are these issues only with RHO electronics or all 1500 HO, or 1500 in general? I guess the more vehicles affected, the better chance we see a real solution implemented.

I’m in product development but not in the auto industry. I’m curious if hardware improvements get made through the course of the model year, or if they hold solutions back until the following year.

 

[JS59]

That really assumes the issues can be resolved with software fixes, and not some hardware issues with the 2025s.

I think I saw on one of Anthony’s posts there were only 3500 RHO sold to the point of his posting. Maybe I’m remembering incorrectly. Assuming that’s true and most of these trucks have less than 5k miles, the quantity of failures we’ve read about here are a bit concerning. Who knows if or when others will fail as well.

Are these issues only with RHO electronics or all 1500 HO, or 1500 in general? I guess the more vehicles affected, the better chance we see a real solution implemented.

I’m in product development but not in the auto industry. I’m curious if hardware improvements get made through the course of the model year, or if they hold solutions back until the following year.

These issues don't seem to be unique to the RHO. The dead battery issues are everywhere - and seemed to start with the Wagoneer. The melted cats are happening on the non-RHO trucks too.

I do worry about thinking a software update fixing everything. My buddy said they had to rip apart the interior of his Wagoneer over the battery issue (after it happened twice) and they ultimately found a loose wire/connection. A software update won't fix that!

 

[Speeder757]

Im paying roughly $13k off sticker and these are super sought after trucks. IF i have issues and hit 6 months of ownership, i would have no issue selling it private party for close to sticker or more, therefore turning a "profit" . I highly doubt in 6 months of ownership the truck would only be worth what i paid for it ($13k off). It would be the least i could do after waiting a year and dealing with a gremlin truck for 6 months. i only say 6 months because most dealers make you sign a contract to not sell the truck within 6 months of delivery to avoid flippers.

You're delusional. You're not selling your 6 months old RHO for anywhere near MSRP

 

[RAM-Ranch-MT]

You're delusional. You're not selling your 6 months old RHO for anywhere near MSRP

Please tell me more with your crystal ball oh wise wizard. Lol . Bro I got 14k off I do not care about your speculation. The fact is will be just fine .

 

[Speeder757]

Please tell me more with your crystal ball oh wise wizard. Lol . Bro I got 14k off I do not care about your speculation. The fact is will be just fine .

My guy it's you who claims to have a crystal ball. Hate to break down reality to you but your 1 yr old USED RHO isn't worth MSRP or anywhere near it

 

[eltaco]

It can happen. There’s a used RHO very close to my build sitting at a dealer near me. They have it listed about $6k over what I paid for my order, and they say their bottom dollar is $4k over what I paid because that’s what they took it in for on trade.

Still, I’m of the opinion that most of these trucks are selling for $10-14k off sticker on any given day… so I really don’t think it’s any kind of special “deal” anyone is getting. I definitely wouldn’t plan on turning a profit on a used one. The internet is pretty well aware of what pricing can be available to anybody.

 

[Speeder757]

It can happen. There’s a used RHO very close to my build sitting at a dealer near me. They have it listed about $6k over what I paid for my order, and they say their bottom dollar is $4k over what I paid because that’s what they took it in for on trade.

Still, I’m of the opinion that most of these trucks are selling for $10-14k off sticker on any given day… so I really don’t think it’s any kind of special “deal” anyone is getting. I definitely wouldn’t plan on turning a profit on a used one. The internet is pretty well aware of what pricing can be available to anybody.

Asking and selling are two different things. 6 months from now is also a different story. Not to mention taxes/lic paid and shipping etc. The guy is on a whole nother planet

 

[rhambo]

Only way I see the price going up is if something similar to the TRX occurring where MSRP jumps up to $80k for a level 0.

 

[AnthonyRI]

Still, I’m of the opinion that most of these trucks are selling for $10-14k off sticker on any given day

The last national data I got was from 2/26, but it's rather indicative I think.

There were only 10 dealerships who had sold more than 10 RHO's at that point (500 of 1881)
There were 725 dealerships that had sold less than 5 RHO's at that point. (1126 of 1881)
My gut says that dealerships having sold 5 or less, probably are not discounting even $5K off, let alone $10-$14K.
You guys here on the forums are the enthusiasts, but there are a LOT of people out there who just show up and pay full boat, in the general truck driving public. You should find them, and bring them here LOL.

P.S. All that said, OF COURSE your vehicle will increase in value
P.P.S This was for finalized sales, not orders, at that time

 

[JS59]

My guy it's you who claims to have a crystal ball. Hate to break down reality to you but your 1 yr old USED RHO isn't worth MSRP or anywhere near it

Tend to agree here. I jumped on Autotrader this AM and there are 8 used RHOs listed in the 78-82k range. Most people that ordered level 1 trucks were getting a price in the low- to mid-70 range - PLUS sales tax. 7% sales tax (roughly 5k) on top of that puts you in the upper 70s to 80k range. To think that 6 months from now after the demand/buzz subsides a bit that we can sell trucks for a profit (i.e. north of 80k) is not realistic in my view given that trucks are already being listed (not sold!) for that range now.

Autotrader - page unavailable

 

[SATX]

Agree and outside of this community, I am not sure there is any real buzz about the RHO. Only 1900 and the RHO appears to be depreciating like any other Ram. Ram built almost 4x as many TRX the first year and they appreciated. Non discount dealers already discounting their stock orders. Well documented litnany of problems. Buy the truck because you like it. Its definitely not going to be an appreciating asset.

 

[NWI_Truck]

Agree and outside of this community, I am not sure there is any real buzz about the RHO. Only 3500 orders and the RHO appears to be depreciating like any other Ram. Ram built almost 4x as many TRX the first year and they appreciated. Non discount dealers already discounting their stock orders. Well documented litnany of problems. Buy the truck because you like it. Its definitely not going to be

The trx also came out at a weird time when everything was gold and people were buying anything and everything. Generally, most all vehicles are depreciating but I think some people think this is still 2020-2022 where you could buy something and flip it for a profit, those days are long over. Some people are holding out for the trx release, which I think people are hopeful they are going to be able to buy one for sub $100k and the rho is taking a little time to warm up to. Knock on wood my rho has been solid, I know not the case for everyone and I still think its got great potential once the kinks are worked out

 

[Chainsaw]

Mannn this thread is a rough ride. Depending on who posted last, I go back and forth about wanting the RHO.

Emotionally, RHO is the BTC of trucks. High highs, lowwww lows.

I take delivery tomorrow, so please no one else post any more FUD or else I might cave.