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Media Test Drives Are Out (MT, C&D, R&T, etc..)!!!

I think many folks get too hooked on the numbers. Yes, a few may have valid reasons for “needing” those numbers, like payload or towing for their personal needs.

C&D summed up their initial impression best. It’s a better handling, better riding version of the TRX, but without the “theater” of a supercharged V8.

I like V8 theater, but could never justify 12 MPG…15 MPG doesn’t sound much better, but it’s a 25% improvement!

For those hooked on 0-60 times, we all know it’s not going to feel like a Tesla in Ludicrous mode, but it’s going to have some decent zip. An M3 competition engine sound on the inside may not be what this segment’s customers want or expect, but it’s better than a new Chevy 2.7L 4 cylinder, which sounds exactly like my sister’s 1st car…a ‘78 Datsun B210.
 
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Man I was really hoping for 18 mpg. I’m coming from my rebel Ecodiesel so a huge drop. I know that was being optimistic but still.
 
Man I was really hoping for 18 mpg. I’m coming from my rebel Ecodiesel so a huge drop. I know that was being optimistic but still.
Can you imagine an Ecodiesel RHO! We’d buy two…maybe a few others, but diesels aren’t even selling well in the HD segment compared with 10 years ago.

Dang GM for calling out VW for doing what every manufacturer was doing at the time. VW had some great diesels, but they bragged too much about taking the top spot in global auto sales (a title formerly held by GM).
 
The two things that are going to affect our decision will be the towing capacity compared to what we have (almost 4k lbs more, and yes we tow) and the sound. Everything else is amazing.

Chris
 
I’m actually glad the reviews talk about it being toned down some. One of the main things I didn’t like about my old TRX was the “look at meeee!!” portion of its character. The V6 Raptor is more under the radar and that’s what I want in my truck as well. My manhood isn’t tied to the sound my truck makes or how crappy the fuel economy is. I have a 23 M3 competition X drive also, so should be fun to compare and contrast the engines once I have both.
 
^slightly slower than the limited he tested which makes sense because of the extra weight
 
Man between all the reviews, there sure are a lot of variances on truck weight. MT has it at 6638 pounds, Car and Driver has it at an estimate 6500 pounds, and Road and Track has it at 6283 pounds, so which is it, lol.
I was thinking the same thing. I know that curb weight is with a full tank, but 6638lbs is crazy. I think they just subtracted door jamb payload from the GVWR.
 
I was thinking the same thing. I know that curb weight is with a full tank, but 6638lbs is crazy. I think they just subtracted door jamb payload from the GVWR.
Good point!
 
I'm not sure why these reviews have me questioning if I'm going to follow through or walk from my deposit. I was so excited to wake up this morning and watch all these reviews, but now i'm scratching my head. I think the constant comparison between the TRX in all of these videos has reminded me that the body style has been out and unchanged since 2020 (21' model year). The interior updates have been nominal (gauge cluster) and this truck is ±95% a TRX with a smaller engine. The technology is fine, but antiquated cameras and how the huge display is under utilized. Decent self-driving, but not great. Man...I didn't ever think i would be saying this, but i've lost a bit of the RHO excitement. Someone get me back on track and tell me otherwise.
 
Thinking more and more about recent TFL review. The 0-60 test was over 5 seconds, but they used Sport. Doesn't Baja mode mean the truck shifts at 4500 RPMs, and wouldn't that improve the 0-60? And if so, wouldn't TFL know that? I can't recall if he mentioned launch mode. They mentioned in the video that there were "hard to get" discounts. They know the discounts aren't hard to get. In their blog 6 months ago, Roman was hating on the truck and Andre seemed favorable. Andre's tone now is "meh." I can't shake the feeling that they're intentionally down-playing the truck. Am I wrong here? Anyone else getting similar vibes.

Not that it matters. Just passing time until the trucks roll in.

By the way, the review from the Rebelle Rally driver is pretty cool. I'm sure it's already been posted, but in case you need something to rinse your mouth out after the TFL video like I did...

Agreed. I think they are "meh" because they did not order one ---- because Roman seems to be incapable of understanding that the RHO is not a replacement for the TRX but rather a competitor for a V6 Raptor. As far as 0-60 times are concerned, even at sea level, the TFL crew in general get very slow times, often because they have three dudes on board during testing- and other times just because they can't drive.
 
I'm not sure why these reviews have me questioning if I'm going to follow through or walk from my deposit. I was so excited to wake up this morning and watch all these reviews, but now i'm scratching my head. I think the constant comparison between the TRX in all of these videos has reminded me that the body style has been out and unchanged since 2020 (21' model year). The interior updates have been nominal (gauge cluster) and this truck is ±95% a TRX with a smaller engine. The technology is fine, but antiquated cameras and how the huge display is under utilized. Decent self-driving, but not great. Man...I didn't ever think i would be saying this, but i've lost a bit of the RHO excitement. Someone get me back on track and tell me otherwise.
What else would you get? It's still, antiquated as you think it is, the best interior in the business. By far. My two close friends have 2023 Raptors. Can't compare. They agree. And unless you want to spend $140k for a Raptor R, you're stuck with 6 cylinder. It's Raptor or RHO or TRX, let's be honest. If you want something new, get a Hummer EV.
 
What else would you get? It's still, antiquated as you think it is, the best interior in the business. By far. My two close friends have 2023 Raptors. Can't compare. They agree. And unless you want to spend $140k for a Raptor R, you're stuck with 6 cylinder. It's Raptor or RHO or TRX, let's be honest. If you want something new, get a Hummer EV.
You are so right. I was thinking the same exact thing. I was really toying with buying a final edition TRX, but the wife said one TRX was enough. lol. Wasn’t going to buy a raptor and this will make the perfect everyday driver. Especially as much as we travel. I have looked at a couple Raptors and they just don’t compare. Not to mention in west Texas I see like 40+ raptors per day.
 
To me this truck is so f***ing bada** I don’t even know how cameras and screen sizes are even a factor when talking about purchasing this truck and what this truck is capable of doing. My kids and I are so excited about off-roading this thing and doing jumps. The videos only prove what you can do in this thing. I understand most people buy vehicles as DD’s and status symbols so certain aspects like mpgs and camera quality hold a lot of importance. All the vehicles I bought in the past I used as both DD’s and what they were designed for. I been through two new s2000’s which I tracked the shit out of and my charger which I dragged….cant wait to get this thing to bundy hill, silver lake and Holly oaks
 
To me this truck is so f***ing bada** I don’t even know how cameras and screen sizes are even a factor when talking about purchasing this truck and what this truck is capable of doing. My kids and I are so excited about off-roading this thing and doing jumps. The videos only prove what you can do in this thing. I understand most people buy vehicles as DD’s and status symbols so certain aspects like mpgs and camera quality hold a lot of importance. All the vehicles I bought in the past I used as both DD’s and what they were designed for. I been through two new s2000’s which I tracked the shit out of and my charger which I dragged….cant wait to get this thing to bundy hill, silver lake and Holly oaks
Preach. Screens and self driving stuff are great for typical city mid life crisis suburban dudes, and not knocking that, but my wife's Subaru can do that It can not automatically adjust the shocks for landing when it senses that it has lifted off the ground, and do it at basically half the price of a TRX for a level 0 with a couple tenths of a second given up in the quarter mile. If you have 120k, maybe TRX is it. My RHO is on order for $67k, and can do everything a TRX can, and maybe more except a tiny bit quieter and tiny bit slower. This is Bad A**, take it out to your nearest desert, put OnX Off Road maps on the giant screen, and send it!
 
For me personally, I think he did the best and thorough review of any so far.
This is by far the best one out.

One thing that's really startlingly bad here is the latency when interacting with the infotainment screens. It's best observed at around the 16 minute mark. That's like decades-old performance.
 

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