Misfiring after 475 miles

[Joe86]

Picked her up Thursday, not the best start… Couldn’t make the journey back home

Did the engine light come on? What did they tell you? Hopefully just software.

This is really getting interesting.

 

[daniellelaven022]

Did the engine light come on? What did they tell you? Hopefully just software.

This is really getting interesting.

Engine light came on, then while heading up a hill coming into to Phoenix it started blinking. Then went solid again so I got it to closest dealer to me. With it being a Saturday I was told it wouldn’t be looked at til Monday as they close at three and they didn’t have anyone available. I picked up a rental and drove the rest of the way home. I’m going to call Ram Monday morning so I can open case to try and stay on top of it since I live a little over three hours away from that dealer.

 

[G2Raptor2RHO]

Engine light came on, then while heading up a hill coming into to Phoenix it started blinking. Then went solid again so I got it to closest dealer to me. With it being a Saturday I was told it wouldn’t be looked at til Monday as they close at three and they didn’t have anyone available. I picked up a rental and drove the rest of the way home. I’m going to call Ram Monday morning so I can open case to try and stay on top of it since I live a little over three hours away from that dealer.

Maybe I shouldn’t get rid of my raptor for this after all…. I’m getting concerned.

 

[frogjbm]

Maybe I shouldn’t get rid of my raptor for this after all…. I’m getting concerned.

Yea I’m with you. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like RAM, how about doing a thorough QC check BEFORE it ships to the customer. RAM is becoming a joke with these new 1500’s, such an embarrassment to the industry. Ford is laughing all the way to the bank. Really reconsidering my investment. Nobody should be driving their brand new (nearly 100k) trucks from the dealership just to turn right around and bring it back and drive their trade in home and hopes the dealer can “figure it out”, like what in the actual fuck. Like many of us, we will be coming from other states to take delivery. I will come completely unhinged if this shit happens to me and wastes my fucking time. Unreal.

 

[OldSchool]

Yea I’m with you. This is absolutely ridiculous. Like RAM, how about doing a thorough QC check BEFORE it ships to the customer. RAM is becoming a joke with these new 1500’s, such an embarrassment to the industry. Ford is laughing all the way to the bank. Really reconsidering my investment. Nobody should be driving their brand new (nearly 100k) trucks from the dealership just to turn right around and bring it back and drive their trade in home and hopes the dealer can “figure it out”, like what in the actual fuck. Like many of us, we will be coming from other states to take delivery. I will come completely unhinged if this shit happens to me and wastes my fucking time. Unreal.

I have to agree. They will have a lot of even MORE pissed off people if they finally start getting these out to customers and everybody is having to deal with $80,000 paperweights that they can't drive.

 

[daniellelaven022]

Your codes are the same as mine. It took them a week to find the cats had melted so would inform them to start there. Mine should be replaced by this Wednesday so will let everyone know if that is the solution after the test drive or if it’s deeper as suggested on here ie injectors, etc. The dealer thinks this will resolve it, but we’ll see.

Thanks for the heads up, I really appreciate it! I will let them know Monday morning!

 

[frogjbm]

I have to agree. They will have a lot of even MORE pissed off people if they finally start getting these out to customers and everybody is having to deal with $80,000 paperweights that they can't drive.

Exactly. For example imagine driving your trade-in hundreds of miles away, do all the paperwork, take delivery, and drive off with your new RHO with your precious family in the truck, then 300 miles into your drive back home your truck begins misfiring and you have two choices, either drive all the way back to the dealership to get your trade-in OR you make the rest of the trip back home (hoping you actually make it home), just to drive it to your local dealer who will tell you to fuck off when you ask for a loaner vehicle for them to “figure it out” and forcing you to rent a car for X days on end….Yea I’m out with that shit. I’d be a straight up psychopath.

 

[NDanecker]

Everyone is rushing the factory to build these but it sounds like there are still bugs to work out. Shocked we are seeing these issues here with the Ram but not wagoner, but they do have different PCM programming being the RHO has multiple drives modes with supporting tables for AF, cam position, timing, etc.

I don’t think just replacing the cats will solve it. Something caused the cats to melt down. I’m thinking bad injector(s) and/or poor PCM programming.

Good luck guys. Feel bad for the ones going through this, and I’m in no rush for them to start building my truck now.

 

[RHOfan]

Hey, my wife actually fixed my blind spot monitoring fault today…after multiple days at the dealership & still wonky…she opened the vehicle menu & there is an “off” button for blind spot monitoring.

She turned it off & guess what? No more crazy chimes & safety system fault warnings on the IP…BRILLIANT!

Maybe Ram wants us to buy these things & just not drive them. It can’t break if you don’t use it, right?

In all seriousness…Ram builds ‘em…stores ‘em…plenty of QC time & they still get delivered with crap not right. Oh yeah, the dealer will figure it out…it’s as complicated as the Space Shuttle! Not fair to the techs & service advisors. Most will try their best…it has to be frustrating.

 

[daniellelaven022]

Exactly. For example imagine driving your trade-in hundreds of miles away, do all the paperwork, take delivery, and drive off with your new RHO with your precious family in the truck, then 300 miles into your drive back home your truck begins misfiring and you have two choices, either drive all the way back to the dealership to get your trade-in OR you make the rest of the trip back home (hoping you actually make it home), just to drive it to your local dealer who will tell you to fuck off when you ask for a loaner vehicle for them to “figure it out” and forcing you to rent a car for X days on end….Yea I’m out with that shit. I’d be a straight up psychopath.

I drove 21 hours to get my truck and at the last three hours of my journey from being home this happened. Very bummed about this whole situation. I wanted to get psycho but it’s not the selling dealers fault, and it’s not this dealers fault. There is obviously an issue and kinks that need to be fixed, I just want it fixed and not bandaged. I would hope they slow down on production til they get the bugs worked out.

 

[RHOfan]

Everyone is rushing the factory to build these but it sounds like there are still bugs to work out. Shocked we are seeing these issues here with the Ram but not wagoner, but they do have different PCM programming being the RHO has multiple drives modes with supporting tables for AF, cam position, timing, etc.

I don’t think just replacing the cats will solve it. Something caused the cats to melt down. I’m thinking bad injector(s) and/or poor PCM programming.

Good luck guys. Feel bad for the ones going through this, and I’m in no rush for them to start building my truck now.

There are plenty of Wagoneer stories out there…just ask a Jeep service advisor.

 

[daniellelaven022]

I’ve emailed the CEO but would be great if someone from RAM would follow this issue as you’d think they’d want identify the cause before pumping out a shit load of these with the same issue. I’m not sure when Daniellelaven022’s was produced but mine was one of the first off the line, so I’m told, so if hers was months after then it would seem it’s more widespread than I originally had thought. The injector seems valid. The PCM though I would think would cause them to all to systemically fail the same way, no?

October 2nd it started production

 

[NDanecker]

I’ve emailed the CEO but would be great if someone from RAM would follow this issue as you’d think they’d want identify the cause before pumping out a shit load of these with the same issue. I’m not sure when Daniellelaven022’s was produced but mine was one of the first off the line, so I’m told, so if hers was months after then it would seem it’s more widespread than I originally had thought. The injector seems valid. The PCM though I would think would cause them to all to systemically fail the same way, no?

Depends on which software version they used. More likely a bad injector but not ruling out a software issue.

Also, might need certain events to happen like just the right (or wrong) atm pressure, drive modes and driving style. If they continued to use their neural net crap (did some tuning with my 19 Ram) then there are dozens of driving modes with supporting tables. One of these tables could have a hole or crazy high value causing the issue, but will only be seen under certain conditions thus not every vehicle showing the issue yet (and why it was not caught in testing). Once we get more trucks on the road we shall know more.

No way I’m adding a tune to my truck until I’m sure things are solid!!!

 

[RAM-Ranch-MT]

This thread is pure anxiety LOL but very necessary. I guess the only positive to having a May order is it may get it fixed before mine is built in a year? haha sorry dad joke. In all seriousness, heavily considering getting a gen 3 raptor or trx that are reliable as hell. My gen2 raptor has been nothing but reliable. I cannot believe ram is not only screwing up the production timing on these (ordered 7 months ago) but also building sub par trucks that are melting down. especially on a motor thats been out years now. Is the hurricane literally everything the EPA has forced finally biting us in the ass? Seriously sorry for the guys who have picked up trucks and had issues, its complete BS. Between the wait and all the issues it may be wise to walk away from this dumpster fire but god damn the RHO seems like the perfect truck ON PAPER.

 

[NEBOYSA]

This thread is pure anxiety LOL but very necessary. I guess the only positive to having a May order is it may get it fixed before mine is built in a year? haha sorry dad joke. In all seriousness, heavily considering getting a gen 3 raptor or trx that are reliable as hell. My gen2 raptor has been nothing but reliable. I cannot believe ram is not only screwing up the production timing on these (ordered 7 months ago) but also building sub par trucks that are melting down. especially on a motor thats been out years now. Is the hurricane literally everything the EPA has forced finally biting us in the ass? Seriously sorry for the guys who have picked up trucks and had issues, its complete BS. Between the wait and all the issues it may be wise to walk away from this dumpster fire but god damn the RHO seems like the perfect truck ON PAPER.

Even first trxs had issues I only owned my 9 months and 23k miles just wasn't worth it for me at the time I was doing 30k a year. I never had issues luckily but my friend truck spend 3 months in shop first year could of been a little less but at one time shop had it for 2 weeks and forgot to look at it my friend could of easily lemon it but Chrysler offered him 15k for his troubles and he just took that

 

[RAM-Ranch-MT]

Even first trxs had issues I only owned my 9 months and 23k miles just wasn't worth it for me at the time I was doing 30k a year. I never had issues luckily but my friend truck spend 3 months in shop first year could of been a little less but at one time shop had it for 2 weeks and forgot to look at it my friend could of easily lemon it but Chrysler offered him 15k for his troubles and he just took that

There no denying early vehicles have issues, even the TRX, im simply saying by now those issues are worked out and its a very reliable vehicle overall in 2024 like the gen 3 raptor vs. the RHO that has yet to work out the kinks!

 

[NDanecker]

There no denying early vehicles have issues, even the TRX, im simply saying by now those issues are worked out and its a very reliable vehicle overall in 2024 like the gen 3 raptor vs. the RHO that has yet to work out the kinks!

SO and HO motors especially the RHO are vastly different. Change one variable and things can pop-up that were not an issue before. Having built a few motors, tuning, etc. I get it. Its frustrating but shit happens. Hundreds/thousands of hours collectively go into road testing and tuning but issues still pop-up. I grew up in the age where ya dumped a larger 4 barrel carb, some good plugs, maybe modify the weights and vacuum to get optimum spark advance, headers, and you sent it. Tuning is way different today but the complexity is what gives us near 600hp+ from a 3.0L motor. Nature of the beast. Give it time and the RHO will be an awesome truck!

 

[yoda33073]

I have to agree. They will have a lot of even MORE pissed off people if they finally start getting these out to customers and everybody is having to deal with $80,000 paperweights that they can't drive.

I was going to fly to Mark Dodge (825 miles from me) and drive my RHO back, but I think I will have it shipped. I am very nervous about service lights coming on halfway back. SMH

 

[frogjbm]

I was going to fly to Mark Dodge (825 miles from me) and drive my RHO back, but I think I will have it shipped. I am very nervous about service lights coming on halfway back. SMH

I have to trade mine in at MD, I’m nervous as shit now bro.

 

[CamNak11]

I was going to fly to Mark Dodge (825 miles from me) and drive my RHO back, but I think I will have it shipped. I am very nervous about service lights coming on halfway back. SMH

That’s how I’m feeling now. I was gonna roadtrip mine all the way to AK. Of course that’s like 4k miles. But was gonna make a fun trip out of it. Wouldn’t be much fun if I was stuck waiting to have it fixed in the middle of BFE. lol